Clients are sending Ash Soan AI-generated drum tracks—with “Suno” right in the filename—and asking him to recreate the sound and feel. Is he worried? Not particularly. And his reasoning says a lot about what makes a musician irreplaceable.

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With credits spanning Adele, Seal, Billy Idol, Tori Amos, and Hans Zimmer, Ash joins Trevor Lawrence Jr. to reflect on an extraordinary career. From discovering drums at age 10 and sitting on Art Blakey's knee at 14 to recording for some of music's biggest names, his journey is as fascinating as his approach to the craft.

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He takes Trevor inside his remarkable windmill studio, explains why his snare never competes with the vocal, shares stories of working with Hans Zimmer and Lionel Richie, and explores the art of playing beyond the grid.

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The conversation also tackles AI's growing presence in music, the wisdom Sting shared about creativity, and why leaning into the human side of playing may be the most important thing musicians can do.

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