What’s up everybody, welcome back to The TrevBeats Show. Today we continue our roundtable of legends, and this time we’re focusing on percussion. Without percussion, there’s no seasoning. It doesn’t always get the spotlight, so today we’re putting it front and center. Joining me are three masters of the craft: Bashiri Johnson, Karl Perazzo, and Kevin Ricard. Everyone here has done gigantic things—session work, live tours, television, film. These are musicians who have shaped records you’ve heard your entire life. Karl has been with Santana for over 30 years. Kevin has been a staple on American Idol, The Tonight Show, and the Oscars. Bashiri has played with Michael Jackson, Whitney Houston, Madonna, and countless others—and pioneered early percussion sound libraries. We start by discussing studio mindset versus live performance. Bashiri explains that when recording, he imagines himself as the listener. He plays parts that will stand the test of time—memorable moments that audiences will sing along with decades later. Karl reflects on obsession-level practice in the pre-YouTube era, wearing out vinyl records learning parts. He explains that even after thousands of performances of songs like “Oye Como Va,” it must feel like the first time. Being a fan of the music keeps it alive. Kevin shares what it takes to survive the pressure of live television. When millions are watching and charts are flying, preparation and calmness are everything. There are no second takes. You must be centered, present, and decisive. The conversation shifts to percussion rigs. From massive road cases in the jingle era to modern streamlined setups, the evolution of gear reflects the evolution of the industry. Kevin describes building a “Ferrari” rig that allows seamless transitions between instruments. Bashiri explains how session demands have changed—often requiring programming instead of live recording due to shrinking budgets. This leads into a deeper discussion about AI in music. Bashiri views AI as another tool—similar to the drum machine revolution. He uses it strategically and transparently, labeling projects as “AI assisted” when applicable. Karl sees AI as interpretation rather than replacement. It may generate ideas, but it cannot replicate heart, culture, or the spiritual connection embedded in rhythm. He recalls working during the Purple Rain era, where drum machines were made to feel human. The machine was shaped by musicians—not the other way around. Kevin emphasizes that percussion is tied to culture, dance, and oral history. Drums speak language. That lineage cannot be replicated by algorithms. The discussion also touches on unity within the percussion community—crossing cultural lines and building brotherhood through rhythm. Each guest shares stories of being embraced across traditions, reinforcing that true musicians recognize each other by spirit and excellence—not ethnicity. The episode closes with reflections on legacy, adaptability, and the responsibility to preserve culture while embracing innovation.